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lenny on 03/04/2012 07:23 PM
Mr. Pedals are you referring to the Montour Trail? If so I dont believeit is connected yet.

 
Mr Pedals from cleveland,Oh on 03/05/2012 06:37 AM
Yes, It's a ext. of the montour Trail. Opens soon if not already.I read it in the pittsburg Paper..thank you.
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lenny on 03/05/2012 09:29 PM
can't find that info anywhere

 
Mr Pedals from Cleveland, Oh. on 03/08/2012 03:54 AM
Open's the weekend of March 25/Along with the expo....Go to "Pittsburg cycling expo" for info..Hope this helps.


DAM 4 Area Trail Conditions - 2012 Update
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Randy from E-Town, PA on 02/21/2012 01:49 PM
I came across some information that indicated the Park Service was going to restore the area on the C&O that has been closed for many years due to rock slides. The area is identified as: Dam 4 to McMahon's Mill. Does anyone have an update as to whether that has been any actual construction? If this news is true we will no longer have to detour onto the Road anymore. Thanks.

 
lenny on 02/21/2012 06:52 PM
yes its true have been working on it for over a year. should be completed late summer

 
Randy on 02/22/2012 01:39 PM
This is great news. I saw where they able to get funding from one of the Stimulus grants, plus the State of MD covered the balance. The detour (Dam Road) was becoming more and more dangerous to ride a bike on. If anyone travels that road be sure to wear a safety vest to improve your visibility. 37 people were injured to date.

 
lenny on 02/23/2012 05:36 AM
I agree that it is dangerious,only because of the inconsiderate drivers. In 2010, the week of July 4th it was 100 derees and the asphalt made the 5 or so mile detour miserable.


Big Savage Tunnel
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Rich from Ohio on 02/22/2012 03:26 PM
Big Savage is posted as being closed through April 10th. Do they ever open before the posted date? Plan to travel trail week or so before that and would love to do Big Savage.


April Ride
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Sam on 02/04/2012 05:40 PM
Is it possible to ride the C&O Canal Trail the first week of April. What should I expect, mud, temp etc. ? Thanks

 
Lenny on 02/06/2012 07:47 PM
Probably very muddy, if not under water!!

 
Dianne from Havre de Grace on 02/11/2012 09:35 PM
If the water is expected to be high due to Spring flooding, they will close some of the hiker/biker campgrounds; otherwise, spring is a great time to ride! Enjoy!

 
Randy on 02/20/2012 01:44 PM
There hasn't been much (if any) snowfall in most of the Mid-Atlantic so far this winter, so we can discount the Spring Thaw and the associated flooding of the river. Last Spring was horrible, because there was signicant snow melt and heavy rain storms. Last Spring, large sections of the C&O were closed. Typically this area does see some good Spring Storms which can make the trails very muddy. Tough call. For myself, I usually wait until June until I start riding.


Pitt to McKeesport
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Michael from Virginia Beach on 01/29/2012 12:03 PM
Road McKeesport to DC last year; 4 days three nights. Loved it. Anyone know if the construction on the bike route from Pitt to McKeesport is now finished or when it is scheduled for completion?

 
lenny on 02/19/2012 09:09 PM
not yet. I can't wait either.


Verizon Cell Phone Coverage
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Sam from Ohio on 02/15/2012 01:39 PM
Can any one tell me how good verizon cell phone coverage is along the GAP and C&O. I have heard it is not the best, but I would like to ride it while returning from DC with my wife returning with the car. Would like to stay in contact at least enough meet in the evenings. Possible?

 
lenny on 02/16/2012 05:30 AM
Cell service is spotty at best between major trailheads,on the towpath, but is ok in most of the towns. The GAP is bad most of the way to Connellsville. Although there is a cell booster at Rockwood.

 
SAM from Ohio on 02/17/2012 09:31 AM
Thanks for the reply

 
lenny on 02/19/2012 09:20 AM
Looks like Verizon just improved cell service in the cCnfluence area


riding the GAP and C&O towpath
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scott from columbia, sc on 02/11/2012 05:24 PM
Planning a trip in early summer anybody have recommendations for a two person shuttle from DC to McKeesport. I have a tandem with a BOB trailer. Thanks Scott


Just did the towpath in 2.5 days... Excellent
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Dave from Alexandria, VA on 11/29/2011 10:33 AM
Did the trip alone and unsupported in mid Nov 2011. Bike was a Yeti SB66 strapped with ~ 35 pounds of gear.

I live near DC. Rented a HERTZ one-way ($100) to Cumberland. The car dropoff was 1/4 mile from trailhead.

Started at mile marker 184.5 near the C&0 trailhead. Picked up lunch in Hancock (mm 120) and made it to Lockhouse #49 (where I stayed the night) at Four Locks near mm 108.

Next day, Another 75+ miles passing Shepherdstown and Harper's Ferry WV - crossing the Potomac on Whites Ferry at sundown, eventually ending the day in Leesburg, VA at the Best Western... Nice :)

Last 1/2 day on home turf - Leesburg to Georgetown then home. The weather had been unseasonably warm and beautiful the first two days. But today's cold-rain reminded me what season it was. Had the correct gear so no problem. Arrived in G-Town around 11am and then home right at noon. OH MAN... that was a super fun ride!
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A couple things... I planned my trip @ 60 miles a day whish is certainly doable for any semi-serious bike rider. I averaged almost 80 miles a day. In summer, the additional daylight hours could add 20 miles a day - or give you that much more chill-time.

Don't forget to bring a light for the Paw-Paw tunnel - It really is dark. Dangerously exciting. I could have passed Sasquatch without knowing.

Lots of other cool sights, sounds, and animals throughout the day - very few people this time of year.

I heard mixed reviews about accomodations at Hancock MD. I decided not to gamble, purchased supplies and moved on. I was able to reserve the lockhouse using my iphone and a visa. 15 miles later, I arrived and got in with easy (code) access. Lockhouse #49 was a perfect rustic overnighter.

The Best Western in Leesburg was nice, inexpensive ($85), and had a good continental breakfast setup in the morning.

Rember to always graze on nutritionals and drink plenty of water throughout the day. This rule (and so

 
Lenny on 11/30/2011 06:56 PM
Great post. Summer can also be tough. July 5-9 2010 was 105 degrees and 65m/d was tough.

 
wayne from Williamsburg, VA on 02/07/2012 10:55 AM
My wife and I bike either the canal or the GAP every July. It can be hot, but the tree canopy is such that we've never felt oppressed by the heat.


GAP Late April
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Roy from Niskayuna, NY on 02/06/2012 10:03 PM
Is it too early to start biking in the Meyersdale to Frostburg area in the last week in April (snow, ice, cold, etc.)?

 
Leny on 02/07/2012 05:47 AM
The entire passage should be in good shape by then.


Hillside Motel in Brunswick
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Anonymous on 05/26/2011 04:05 PM
I recently went to the motel to visit a friend and i was greeted by a very rude woman who told me that there was no guests alowed on the property and that wed have to rent a room to visit our firends in their room. terrible customer service i wouldnt recemend staying here.

 
Anonymous on 06/27/2011 04:36 PM
you must have been a drug dealer or just no good cause i am staying there and she has been nothing but amazing

 
Anonymous on 06/30/2011 12:00 PM
I also knew guess of this Motel and the room are not the cleans as they should be and the manage plays favor to the tentants and if she does not like you or have a prolbem with you she makes it known to everyone. And to set the record straight I am not a drug dealer I have a real job.

 
Jim on 07/20/2011 01:24 PM
Maybe she thought you were for "hire" :)

 
someone who cares just like the manger at Hillside from MD on 01/31/2012 12:51 AM
The manger the lady you are talking about is very nice and respectful to everyone. You had to be doing something your weren't suppost to be doing or disrespectful to her or someone there. Because that lady your talking about is not like that.

 
Carolyn from va on 01/31/2012 01:30 AM
That lady you are talking about. She's the manager of that Motel. She always watched over everything she took care of everything. I know she ran all the rif raf out of the Motel. She cleaned that Motel up. I felt alot safer bringing my family to this Motel. Thanks to the manger Lisa for getting it cleaned up. So know who has a to say anything about that lady.


Hillside Motel in Brunswick
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Mr.Jackson from Md on 01/31/2012 01:10 AM
I'm really sorry to hear that the young lady that has been running the Motel is not there anymore. I went up there last week and she was moving her stuff out. I couldn't believe it. She really turned that Motel around 100% better than it has been for along time. I don't know were I will stay now. I asked her where she was going at that time she didn't know. I gave her my # told her if she gos to another Motel call me. This Motel will be just like it was before she took over. It's really sad. We will miss her and the Motel too. We will not be back unless she comes back.


Hillside Motel in Brunswick
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someone that use to go to this Motel all time from MD on 01/31/2012 12:38 AM
I love this Motel! It's really sad that the manger Lisa is not there anymore. The place has already started going down hill. Lisa was always so nice to everyone. She kept the place looking better that it ever did before. The rooms were clean, overall the Motel was alot better mange when Lisa was here. I'm sorry disappointed that's she's gone.


Running
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Scott from Ijamsville, MD on 11/02/2011 12:42 PM
I have run on the trail in the areas near the Mouth of the Monocacy aqueduct. It's nice running there but the scenery isn't very interesting. Could anyone recommend other parts of the trail that are a bit more scenic?

 
scott s from damascus md on 01/27/2012 06:21 PM
I think we are related haha


Town Hill Manor B & B in Little Orleans
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Steve from Georgia from Tiger, GA on 07/18/2010 08:06 AM
Stayed here several years ago, and had a great stay after riding south from Cumberland. The owners couldn't have been nicer, and the breakfast the next A.M. was wonderful before heading south again. They shuttle you to and from the trail.

 
Rick Hancock from Grafton on 11/26/2010 07:19 PM
My wife and I stayed at Town Hill during a 3 day ride along the Passage/C&O. Great place, wonderful host's. It would be wise to arrange supper (which was very good) as there is no where to eat except Bill's. For a nominal fee $5 bucks each they shuttled us both ways. It's a long 6 miles! The Alabama tomato pie was worth the lodging fee!

 
Rick Hancock from Grafton on 01/14/2012 08:59 PM
What a switch from my last review. I've stayed at the Town Hill Manor 2-3 times and was always treated very well. However, this past Oct. My group of 6 riders were greatly mistreated. The Passage was high and dry except for a major rock slide just east of Meyersdale, but the C&O was wet and pretty muddy after several days/weeks of lousy weather. The 3rd day we rode from Cumberland to Little Orleans and called for a shuttle from Bill's Place (I'd made the reservation about 3 month's in advance.)When we arrived after stopping at a market for sandwiches we were met in the front yard and told we could eat in the pavilion, it was cold and windy, 50's and we were wet, muddy, cold, and tired. We were told that a 40th high school reunion was going on so we couldn't use the dining area. There were about 40 people there and the room holds over 100. While we were eating the owner kept coming out and reminding us that we would need to brush ourselves and our gear before entering, we were told this about 7 times. I'd already stressed the need to my group and everyone understood. After cleanup we were taken up a few at a time to "keep from bothering" the other guests. Once upstairs we were told to use one shower, there are 3 available. I talked again to the owner about at least using a second shower which he finally allowed. While I was showering last he came up stairs and chastised my group about making too much noise we weren't allowed to come downstairs. The next morning we did enjoy the wonderful breakfast that I'd spoken so highly of even though we were placed away from the other patrons. When I mentioned how I wasn't very happy with the way we were treated the owner stated that several bike groups had misused the place and left dirt and mud behind. I understand that Townhill Manor is a nice place a great place in fact but if your going to take peoples money and it wasn't cheap then you need to except that we don't all arrive by vehicle wearing a coat and tie. I've always tr


Hiking the GAP
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Paul A on 01/07/2012 10:09 PM
I'll be hiking the GAP, this spring, from Mc Keesport to Cumberland to compliment the hike I did last spring of the C+O. Has anyone here ever done a thru hike of the GAP? If so I'd love to hear any advice you have to offer.


Lock #13 in Bethesda
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Anonymous on 12/27/2011 08:07 PM
note scribe in lock stone> made by w h davis from 1923-1932 he was a locktender of lock 13 and 12


Your email address bounced.... Post on your events
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Robert Blanda - TeamHangover.net from Berlin, NJ on 12/05/2011 06:15 PM
First, let me say THANK You for all the information you have posted on your site.

Our BikePacking trip is a short one, for rookies, 5 days … if you could post on your EVENTS page, we’d be greatful. We would love more people. Lets make it a party!

Here is the information:

Bike with Team Hangover:

Itinerary GAP Trail- Bikepacking 2012 – June 7th-June 12th 2012

Day ONE: Thursday, June 7th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 4 Hours
Miles today: 32.5
LEAVING: Cumberland, MD (yes we have to drive here…)
ARRIVING: Meyersdale, PA

Day TWO: Friday, June 8th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 3 Hours, 35 mins
Miles today: 30
LEAVING: Meyersdale, PA
ARRIVING: Confluence, PA

Day THREE: Saturday, June 9th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 2 Hours
Miles today: 16
LEAVING: Confluence, PA
ARRIVING: Rockwood, PA

Day FOUR: Sunday, June 10th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 3 Hours, 30 Mins
Miles today: 28
LEAVING: Rockwood, PA
ARRIVING: Frostburg, MD

Day FIVE: Monday, June 11th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 2 Hours
Miles today: 16.5
LEAVING: Frostburg, MD
ARRIVING: Cumberland, MD
(THIS IS OUR PARTY-HARD NIGHT!)

Day SIX: Tuesday, June 12th
LEAVING: Cumberland, MD – Drive Home


Thank you
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Robert Blanda - TeamHangover.net from Berlin, NJ on 12/05/2011 06:08 PM
Thank you very much for posting all this information. As a web developer, I can appreciate all the work you put into it, even if it's built in DOT NET ;) ... Thanks again. We're basing our trip on your information.

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