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Williams Port Parking
 -  + I'm visiting Williams Port for the day for work and I'm looking to go for a bike ride on the C&O Trail. What are my parking options?
Discussion started 05/16/25 8:52:07 AM by John G. - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts at 05/16/25 9:43:03 AM)
John G. from Wilmington, Delaware on 05/16/25 8:52:07 AM
I'm visiting Williams Port for the day for work and I'm looking to go for a bike ride on the C&O Trail. What are my parking options?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead,PA on 05/16/25 9:43:03 AM
You can park yay Cushwa Basin or on the approach to Lockhouse 44. The latter provides the best access to the trail by bicycle. You can see these parking locations in the Google Maps satellite view of that area.


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1828 Trail Inn Bed & Breakfast in Hancock
 -  + They sold a couple years ago, and now the new owners are also retiring. Place unavailable.
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Charles Getty from Vienna, VA on 05/16/25 8:46:23 AM
They sold a couple years ago, and now the new owners are also retiring. Place unavailable.


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1878 Riverun in Hancock
 -  + Best Hidden Gem on the GAP/C&O! Stayed April 2025 | 5 Stars I’m a cyclist riding the Great Allegheny Passage to the C&O Canal Trail from Pittsburgh to D.C., and I’ve stayed in a lot of spots along...
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John Windsor from Austin, Texas on 05/16/25 8:34:28 AM
Best Hidden Gem on the GAP/C&O!
Stayed April 2025 | 5 Stars

I’m a cyclist riding the Great Allegheny Passage to the C&O Canal Trail from Pittsburgh to D.C., and I’ve stayed in a lot of spots along the way — but 1878 River Run in Hancock, MD absolutely blew me away.

This place just opened up, and it’s already one of the best stays I’ve had on any tour. It’s a peaceful, charming, beautifully restored home with all the comfort and character you want after a long day on the trail. Secure bike storage, clean everything, and hosts who genuinely care about making your stay great.

It’s so perfectly located right off the trail, I almost didn’t believe my luck. Honestly, once more riders find out about this place, it’s going to be nearly impossible to book — especially when the tour companies get word. They’ll be reserving it a year out.

If you're riding solo, make sure you grab a night here while you can. This is the kind of spot that makes the whole journey even more worth it.


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C&O Trail Conditions
 -  + The trail conditions along the C&O Canal Towpath is a frequent question asked on this forum. I, along with others, have noted that conditions vary quite a lot depending on the weather. With a fair a...
Discussion started 05/13/25 10:00:23 AM by Rivnuts - 2 replies (last reply by Mac at 05/15/25 6:06:27 PM)
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 05/13/25 10:00:23 AM
The trail conditions along the C&O Canal Towpath is a frequent question asked on this forum. I, along with others, have noted that conditions vary quite a lot depending on the weather. With a fair amount of rain, the C&O can have lots of puddles and mud especially leaving Cumberland MD in route to DC. In the vain of a picture is worth a thousand words, I recommend you watch the following YouTube video that depicts such conditions.

https://youtu.be/2trPOwBGf60?si=taDJPqkuCzszKIOu

For that matter, the entire series of videos of that particular trip depict the trail surfaces on both the C&O and the GAP trails quite well.

 
D.Moranz from Landrum, SC on 05/14/25 7:50:04 PM
Trail conditions from Cumberland to Hancook… just came into Hancook today after leaving Cumberland Maryland this morning. 12 miles outside of Cumberland going towards Hancock we ran into downed trees and flooding conditions across the trail.
There are a few closures which the park service has workaround for.
We did get on the Western Maryland rail trail, where it joins the C and O as the CNO trail was underwater in many areas. Even the Western Maryland rail trail had a few down trees across it, which were passable..
The western Maryland rail trail goes directly into Hancock.
We plan on taking the western Maryland rail trail from Hancock towards Williamsport tomorrow. It goes to within 10 miles of Williamsport.. we will see what detours are in place when we get there tomorrow.

 
Mac from Asheville on 05/15/25 6:06:27 PM
Are there any updates from Hancock to Williamsport, Harper’s Ferry?


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storm damage Gap
 -  + This is a copy and paste I just got and want to pass on to everyone. Storms Damage GAP from Meyersdale to Cumberland Heavy rainfall between May 12 and 14 resulted in ponding water, deep ruts,...
Discussion started 05/14/25 6:00:21 PM by oldspoke - 1 reply (last reply by Mac at 05/15/25 6:04:23 PM)
oldspoke from Brick,N.J. on 05/14/25 6:00:21 PM
This is a copy and paste I just got and want to pass on to everyone.



Storms Damage GAP from Meyersdale to Cumberland
Heavy rainfall between May 12 and 14 resulted in ponding water, deep ruts, downed trees, clogged culverts, and multiple washed-out trail surfaces along some sections of the Great Allegheny Passage between Meyersdale and Cumberland. Some trail access points, like the one at Deal, show signs of flooding. Expect slow and bumpy conditions while crews continue to inspect, inventory, and determine the extent of damage. The GAP remains open, but please travel cautiously. Dismount and walk your bike if need be. Click here for updates.

Be careful out there.

 
Mac from Asheville on 05/15/25 6:04:23 PM
Minor rutting at best.


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Flooding????
 -  + Currently on my way to DC. Arrived with the rain in Rockwood this afternoon. I understand there is/may be flooding and flash flooding. Looks like there are evacuations road closures around Meyersdale ...
Discussion started 05/13/25 8:01:56 PM by Mac - 1 reply (last reply by Mac at 05/15/25 5:54:26 PM)
Mac from Asheville on 05/13/25 8:01:56 PM
Currently on my way to DC. Arrived with the rain in Rockwood this afternoon. I understand there is/may be flooding and flash flooding. Looks like there are evacuations road closures around Meyersdale and maybe Cumberland? Can anyone give an indication if this will affect ride for the next 3 days to DC? Should I consider alternative plans? I am fine with rain. Not fine with flooding. Would consider off trail reroutes from Cumberland to DC.

 
Mac from Asheville on 05/15/25 5:54:26 PM
Cumberland to Hancock update:


Cumberland to Old Town is champagne.

At Old Town the closure is a barricade that seems more official than yellow tape so I headed off path and stopped at the Old Town Kitchen and bought some Vienna Sausages, Orange Square Nabs, and a Pepsi. I did not explore the path beyond the barricade- hopped on to 51 and CAREFULLY rode to Town Creek Aqueduct entrance no problem (Mile 167-162). A few short, steep hills and no shoulder…

Town Creek to Paw-Paw tunnel was more champagne.

Paw-Paw tunnel to the closure at miles 136 to 134 was messy but not notably.

Mile 134 to Hancock is messy. Lots of remnant silt and mud from the Potomac flooding. Probably 10 or so down trees across the path in this section, two of note.

Cold beer in Hancock. Take care and safe travels.


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Free Parking
 -  + Hello everyone, Hope this finds all doing good. I have a question about the free parking under I-68 ? Anyone here have any information about how safe it is to live your car there for a week ...
Discussion started 05/13/25 8:54:44 AM by oldspoke - 3 replies (last reply by oldspoke at 05/13/25 10:20:14 AM)
oldspoke from Brick, N.J. on 05/13/25 8:54:44 AM
Hello everyone,
Hope this finds all doing good.
I have a question about the free parking under I-68 ?
Anyone here have any information about how safe it is to live your car there for a week ?
Any vandalism or break ins ?

Thank you for your time.

Oldspoke

 
oldspoke from Brick,N.J. on 05/13/25 8:55:49 AM
sorry should be leave your car my bad

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 05/13/25 9:44:12 AM
In general, the reviews of parking there indicate that it is safe to park there. I've neither incurred nor heard of any issues there. The normal public parking precautions are advised i.e. remove any valuables from sight inside your car.

Perhaps those that live in and around Cumberland can offer their experience as well.


 
oldspoke from Brick,N.J. on 05/13/25 10:20:14 AM
Thanks Rivnuts


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Friday the 16th
 -  + Anyone taking the train from DC to Pittsburgh on Friday?
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Jack from Orange , CT on 05/13/25 7:50:44 AM
Anyone taking the train from DC to Pittsburgh on Friday?


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riding PGH to CUM
 -  + Our train gets in late to PGH. Is there a hotel and restaurant close to the train station?
Discussion started 04/28/25 6:13:52 PM by Karin - 5 replies (last reply by Rivnuts, Homestead,PA at 05/08/25 11:50:39 AM)
Karin from Arlington on 04/28/25 6:13:52 PM
Our train gets in late to PGH. Is there a hotel and restaurant close to the train station?

 
Rivnuts from Homestesd, PA on 04/28/25 7:41:36 PM
Penn Station which houses the Amtrak passenger terminal is on the edge of downtown Pittsburgh with a number of hotels just a handful of blocks away including the following:

Druzy Hotel
AC Hotel (a Marriott hotel)
Hampton Inn
Homewood Suites
Marriott Courtyard
Westin Hotel

You can locate these hotels in Google Maps along with Penn Station to determine which might best for you.

Among others, There are a number of restaurants on Penn Avenue in either direction from Penn Station. Again refer to Google Maps which shows these and their proximity to Penn Station and the hotels.

Drop a note if I can provide any further info.


 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/28/25 8:55:13 PM
Make that Drury Hotel rather than Druzy Hotel. My bad.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/29/25 5:50:55 PM
PS: if you are taking Amtrak’s Capital Limited from DC to Pittsburgh, its scheduled arrival around midnight makes finding a restaurant that’s open at that time of night difficult. It’s not a great time to be walking around town looking for one. Ordering from Uber Eats or DoorDash to your selected hotel may be your best and safest option.

 
Terry from Baltimore on 05/07/25 11:34:33 PM
If you are taking Amtrak from Washington to PGH, you will be on the Floridian instead of the Capitol Limited. It starts in Miami instead of WAS, and it is now running almost always 1 hr late to PGH - sometimes 4.5 hrs late. We planned to take it to Connellsville May 22, but had to drop that plan and rent a car instead. We have driven a rental car to PGH in the past. I prefer train. Capitol Limited got me to Chicago EARLY the last few years. But this new route has problems, at least right now. Factor that in.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead,PA on 05/08/25 11:50:39 AM
Thanks Terry. I had forgotten they had merged the Capital Limited into/with the Floridian route. I haven’t taken the train back from DC to Pgh since last.fall before they merged those routes. It’s disappointing that the departure time out of DC is so unreliable now. It was already a late arrival in Pgh and now it appears to commonly be even later.


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Antietem Battlefield
 -  + For those that have been there, how far is Antietem battlefield from the trail?
Discussion started 05/06/25 8:30:10 PM by Jack - 3 replies (last reply by Rivnuts at 05/07/25 9:03:49 PM)
Jack from Orange, CT on 05/06/25 8:30:10 PM
For those that have been there, how far is Antietem battlefield from the trail?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead,PA on 05/06/25 10:53:19 PM
It’s about 3 miles from the Towpath with a fair amount of climbing getting from the river elevation up to the battlefield. I rode up there last year. If you’re a history buff, especially Civil War history, it’s worth doing. The park service has a bike route around the battlefield that visits the major battles. What amazed me most was the number of deaths, 23,000, in only 12-hours of battle. A very sobering statistic.

 
Jack from Orange, CT on 05/07/25 8:33:05 PM
Great, thanks. Where is the best place to exit the trail?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead,PA on 05/07/25 9:03:49 PM
It depends which direction you are riding along the C&O. If you’re are riding down river as I was last year, I got off the trail at Taylor’s Landing. If you’re a history are riding upriver, you can leave the trail at Canal Road/Harpers Ferry Road or at.Shepherdstown Pike. You can use Google Maps to view these routes.

There is a rather comprehensive guide to accessing and touring the Battlefields at the following website:

https://civilwarcycling.com/battlefields/antietam/routes/

The National Park Service has some excellent websites with guides within the Battlefield also.


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Yates Cottage in Boston
 -  + Hi Ray, I just noticed this, The Yates Cottage is located on the GAP trail not the C & O trail. Thanks for your assistance!
Discussion started 05/06/25 1:42:30 PM by Jade - 0 replies
Jade on 05/06/25 1:42:30 PM
Hi Ray,

I just noticed this, The Yates Cottage is located on the GAP trail not the C & O trail.

Thanks for your assistance!



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Cross Trails Hostel in Harpers Ferry
 -  + We simply could not have completed our AT trip through Maryland if it wasn’t for Parker and Cross Trails Hostel. He was our Angel, multiple times, and we are just so grateful we found him! I can’t say...
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G’s from Rhode Island on 05/05/25 10:38:16 PM
We simply could not have completed our AT trip through Maryland if it wasn’t for Parker and Cross Trails Hostel. He was our Angel, multiple times, and we are just so grateful we found him! I can’t say enough about how reliable, supportive and informative Parker and Cross Trails are. What a special guy and a special place! Make sure you find Parker and Cross Trails if you are in the Harper’s Ferry area and want a great and reliable place to stay. You sure can count on them!


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Trail closures or blockages
 -  + We are planning a trip on the GAP and C&O from May 11 -17. Are there any trail closures due to storms or construction on the GAP. Where can I find official notices on this? Thanks.
Discussion started 05/04/25 8:56:52 PM by Tom Fleming - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts, Homestead,PA at 05/04/25 10:41:40 PM)
Tom Fleming from Chattanooga on 05/04/25 8:56:52 PM
We are planning a trip on the GAP and C&O from May 11 -17. Are there any trail closures due to storms or construction on the GAP. Where can I find official notices on this? Thanks.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead,PA on 05/04/25 10:41:40 PM
Go to the website

Gaptrail.org

For trail conditions along the GAP and the National Park Service’s C&O Towpath website at

https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvisit/conditions.htm

for alerts along the C&O.




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GAP Trail Segment Near Pittsburgh Reopened.
 -  + The closed GAP Trail segment between Homestead and Duquesne was reopened yesterday. Good news for local and touring cyclists.
Discussion started 04/15/25 4:14:20 PM by Rivnuts - 4 replies (last reply by Cathy from Churchill at 04/21/25 12:12:05 AM)
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/15/25 4:14:20 PM
The closed GAP Trail segment between Homestead and Duquesne was reopened yesterday. Good news for local and touring cyclists.

 
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 04/17/25 1:17:48 AM
Thank you for the update Rivnuts. Do you happen to know what the surface of the trail is like? I've found chat covered trails tend to be "soupy" or like wet cement during late winter/early spring.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/17/25 5:44:58 PM
Yesterday I rode the trail from Homestead out through Little Boston toward Sutersville after the closed trail section was reopened Tuesday. The trail was dry and firm in spite of all the rain we received last Thursday. Maybe I’ll get out even further tomorrow given the sunny forecast.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/18/25 5:56:07 PM
Rode out further on the GAP today. Trail conditions were excellent, I.e. typical of mid-summer, dry conditions.

 
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 04/21/25 12:12:05 AM
I got to ride on the GAP today from Boston to mile marker 122. The weather was fantastic and the trail surface was great. In spite of the wonderful weather there were not very many people out. I'm sure many were spending their Easter with family.

I love this time of year on the GAP when trees and plants are just starting to grow.


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Current c&o conditions
 -  + Anybody know current trail conditions for C&O? Muddy? Passable?
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Timorhy on 04/18/25 3:21:01 PM
Anybody know current trail conditions for C&O? Muddy? Passable?


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Lock #21 (Swain's Lock) in Potomac
 -  + What is the homeless person situation at Swains Lock h/b?
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Denbo from Louisville KY on 04/17/25 4:20:37 PM
What is the homeless person situation at Swains Lock h/b?


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botanical adventures
 -  + My plan for June is to do a botanical survey of the Laurel Highlands region of parts of Pennsylvania and elsewhere along the trail. While this had not necessarily been my academic concentration in col...
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My plan for June is to do a botanical survey of the Laurel Highlands region of parts of Pennsylvania and elsewhere along the trail. While this had not necessarily been my academic concentration in college field guides and specie knowledge will prove useful. To that end some of the rustic camp sites should offer entries for my journal. Ecological and ecosystem documentation continues to be necessary. Inspiration has come from the late Elzada Clover and Lois Jotter who as former University of Michigan researchers traversed the Colorado River during the early twentieth-century. Fellow adventures for sure. This trip by bike for myself, however, should prove to be not so dangerous. I welcome any thoughts.


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Segment closure near Pitt
 -  + Is there any update on the trail closure at Duquesne? Are you able to pass through the work? We are planning on getting in the trail Saturday morning and want to prepare as best we can.
Discussion started 04/09/25 11:45:45 AM by Scott B - 5 replies (last reply by Rivnuts at 04/15/25 7:39:22 AM)
Scott B from Columbus, Ohio on 04/09/25 11:45:45 AM
Is there any update on the trail closure at Duquesne? Are you able to pass through the work? We are planning on getting in the trail Saturday morning and want to prepare as best we can.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/09/25 6:18:43 PM
Whn I rode by there today, the trail closure you refer to is still in place and there is no update on the GAP website as to if or when it will reopen other than the original two-week prognosis.. There is actually a tall, locked fence gate at the base of the Whitaker flyover ramp which doesn’t enable you to skirt around it to continue on the trail toward the area of construction. If you’re willing to accept the risk, you can exit the trail at the east end of the Waterfront shopping center and continue to Duquesne on State Rt 837/River Road/Kennywood Blvd. The traffic on that road is heavy and fast with no or narrow shoulders. I certainly don’t recommend that as a safe alternative.

I’ll check on the status of the closure on Friday or sooner and provide another reply to your inquiry. Stay tuned. If needed, I may be able to assist you in shuttling between Homestead and Duquesne. (No charge.)

 
Scott B from Columbus,Ohio on 04/10/25 7:06:04 AM
Thank you so much for all of the info! We are hoping that Friday will be the end of the “2 week work week” but can’t rely on that being the case with construction. We are used to riding heavier trafficked roads but 837 doesn’t seem like a good one to be on. But maybe 2.5 miles wouldn’t be too bad. I’ll check back for an update if you are able to check it out again. I really appreciate all the help!

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/11/25 4:23:32 PM
To Scott B. From Columbus

As of 3:00 PM today, the trail is still closed. The entry gate to the Whitaker Flyover ramp remains closed and locked and all the yard signs along the trail out of Pittsburgh announcing the closure remain. Further the Gaptrail.org website today has no update to the original two-week closure announcement.

To refresh my recollection of the suspect road bypass route, I drove along it this afternoon. It would be 3.5 miles to Grant Avenue in Duquesne where you could first return to the trail. While there is perhaps a mile or so of a rather wide shoulder or sidewalk along the highway, the balance of the distance has virtually no shoulder and the traffic runs 45 to 50 mph in those stretches.

One alternative might be to start your trip in Duquesne if you were reasonably able to do so. Of course you could also get a shuttle around the detour. There were a couple of shuttle source links in the original trail closure notice. Also, my offer to shuttle you around the detour stands albeit with some caveats. My rack only holds two non-E-bikes (road, gravel or mountain. I could make a couple of trips if there are more than two in your party. I probably couldn’t fit trailers in the car. That said, I’d be happy to help if I can. If you want to explore my offer further drop me an email at rivnuts@yahoo.com to work out a plan and time. I live in Homestead so departing from there is very easy for me but could also depart from other places without any trouble.

For info the weekend looks dry in the area with temps only in the 40’s tomorrow and warmer on Sunday.

Best Wishes


 
Scott B from Columbus,Ohio on 04/11/25 4:55:36 PM
I really appreciate the detailed update on the closure. I am bummed it is still closed in such a tricky section but I’m sure the work will make the trail safer for future riders. We will just opt to start at the park and ride down in Duquesne for simplicity. Thanks again for all the info I have found on this forum. I’m excited for my first GAP/ C&O trip. I’m sure I’ll be back to check off those first 13.5 miles!

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/15/25 7:39:22 AM
This closed GAP Trail segment between Homestead and Duquesne was reopened yesterday. Good news for local and touring cyclists.


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Big Wheel Bikes in Georgetown - Washington
 -  + Google Maps shows this location as 'permanently' closed. April 2025. Link - https://maps.app.goo.gl/FNxkcKvNbz9937KYA Also, their website only shows Arlington and Old Town locations, but not Geo...
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Adrian from California on 04/04/25 1:11:24 AM
Google Maps shows this location as 'permanently' closed. April 2025.

Link - https://maps.app.goo.gl/FNxkcKvNbz9937KYA

Also, their website only shows Arlington and Old Town locations, but not Georgetown.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/04/25 2:28:32 PM
You can reach the Big Wheel Bikes store in Arlington from Georgetown however via the Key Bridge and the Custis Trail.

 
Straus Guide 1980 from Thornton, CO on 04/12/25 2:12:06 PM
I highly recommend Big Wheel Bikes in Arlington. As Rivnuts said, it's accessible by bike trail just a few miles from the C&O. I rented a bike there for a through ride last summer. They know how to take care of riders and also have plenty of supplies on hand. They don't do a lot of advertising and keep their rates down.


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Fort Frederick State Park in Fort Frederick
 -  + Does the park have electric so my wife can charge her ebike?
Discussion started 04/09/25 6:17:26 AM by Mike W - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts, Homestead, PA at 04/09/25 9:11:30 AM)
Mike W from Long Island on 04/09/25 6:17:26 AM
Does the park have electric so my wife can charge her ebike?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 04/09/25 9:11:30 AM
See the following excerpt from the Fort Frederick State Park website:

“ Can we put our tent on an electric site or are electric sites reserved for RV’s only?
You sure can! As a tent or pop-up camper, you may reserve an electric site. When reserving campsites that accommodate RV’s, do not assume you are getting amenities with full hook-ups. Site amenities will be listed with electric/water/sewer if available at the site you are reserving. Also be aware, that your tent may be located next to an RV.”


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Gap Trail Bikers Campground in West Newton
 -  + Does the campground accommodate ebikes> i.e. charging?
Discussion started 04/08/25 5:58:26 AM by Mike - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts at 04/08/25 7:31:05 AM)
Mike from Long Island on 04/08/25 5:58:26 AM
Does the campground accommodate ebikes> i.e. charging?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead , PA on 04/08/25 7:31:05 AM
Given the covered pavilion there and the amenities within such as lights and hot coffee, I’d expect there there are receptacles that could be used to charge your e-bike battery. If the weather improves and the trail firms up, I’ll ride by there and confirm. You could also call the owner at 724-244-5859 to verify.


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Falls Market and Inn in Ohiopyle
 -  + Called on March 21, 2025 to cancel a reservation due to a family emergency. Was told there is a $20 cancelation fee when on site states full refund before 2 weeks. It has been almost 3 weeks since can...
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Mike W from Long Island on 04/08/25 6:16:27 AM
Called on March 21, 2025 to cancel a reservation due to a family emergency. Was told there is a $20 cancelation fee when on site states full refund before 2 weeks. It has been almost 3 weeks since cancelation still no refund. Emailed several times regarding this issue with no response back, I even called several times and was told i would get a call back from the person in charge. Still haven't heard back. Makes me question my confidence in the Falls Market Inn.


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Temporary GAP Trail Closure Between Homestead and Duquesne
 -  + From the gaptrail.org web site: GAP Mile 136 | Reported on March 21, 2025 A segment of the Great Allegheny Passage between Duquesne (roughly mile marker 136) and Homestead (roughly mile marker 1...
Discussion started 03/21/25 2:35:35 PM by Rivnuts - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts at 03/29/25 9:34:34 PM)
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 03/21/25 2:35:35 PM
From the gaptrail.org web site:

GAP Mile 136 | Reported on March 21, 2025

A segment of the Great Allegheny Passage between Duquesne (roughly mile marker 136) and Homestead (roughly mile marker 138) will be closed for two weeks in early-to-mid April so that professional contractors can address rockfall and mudslides. Specific start and end dates for the segment closure have not yet been determined but will be announced on this page as soon as they are finalized.

The section of the GAP to be closed is located beneath Kennywood Park and is bookended by the Whitaker and Port Perry Flyovers. There is no detour, and we do not recommend riding on local roads, which are heavily trafficked. Instead, we recommend hiring a shuttle service to transport you and your bicycle between the trail access points in Duquesne and Homestead. One local shuttle is Bill’s Car Service. See this list of shuttle services for other potential options

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 03/29/25 9:34:34 PM
The trail will be closed and work begun the morning of March 31.


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Big Savage Tunnel Reopening
 -  + The gaptrail.org web site reports that the Big Savage Tunnel will reopen on the afternoon of March 24,2025.
Discussion started 03/19/25 3:44:53 AM by Rivnuts - 0 replies
Rivnuts from Homestead , PA on 03/19/25 3:44:53 AM
The gaptrail.org web site reports that the Big Savage Tunnel will reopen on the afternoon of March 24,2025.


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Condition of Trail
 -  + Has anyone been on the GAP on parts that are chat and unpaved (which I think is most of the trail starting east of McKeesport)? I'm looking forward to get back out on the trail. In past years when I t...
Discussion started 03/17/25 12:09:32 AM by Cathy from Churchill - 2 replies (last reply by Cathy from Churchill at 03/19/25 12:46:09 AM)
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 03/17/25 12:09:32 AM
Has anyone been on the GAP on parts that are chat and unpaved (which I think is most of the trail starting east of McKeesport)? I'm looking forward to get back out on the trail. In past years when I tried to bike unpaved trails around this time of the year I found the surfaces like wet cement. Any pointers on when the surfaces will be less "soupy" would be appreciated.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 03/17/25 4:16:23 PM
Aside from after lots of rain when the trail is soft, I have found trail conditions can/will be soft so long as we are still experiencing daily freeze/thaw conditions. Such conditions often occur through the month of March. The shaded portions of the trail are usually the softest. Once the daily temps stay above freezing it’s usually just the rain that softens the trail.

 
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 03/19/25 12:46:09 AM
Thanks Rivnuts, that's what I suspected. May, sun and a solid trail will be here soon.


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Harper's Ferry
 -  + My family (incl husband and 2 teen boys) are riding the trail in April. We are riding South, Cumberland to DC. We plan on spending a few hours in Harpers Ferry. I hear there are some stairs? How har...
Discussion started 03/18/25 10:41:37 AM by MacBikes - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts at 03/18/25 3:55:11 PM)
MacBikes from Maine on 03/18/25 10:41:37 AM
My family (incl husband and 2 teen boys) are riding the trail in April. We are riding South, Cumberland to DC. We plan on spending a few hours in Harpers Ferry. I hear there are some stairs? How hard is it to manuver your bike?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 03/18/25 3:55:11 PM
Yes, there are spiral, steel stairs to get from the trail up to the pedestrian walkway along the railroad bridge crossing over the Potomac River to Harper’s Ferry. (The stairway is only on one end of the bridge.). The stairs are rather wide so as long as you can carry your bike, it’s rather easy to negotiate the stairs. If you have bags on your bike, you will likely opt to remove the bags before carrying your bike and the make a second trip with your bags. With others in your party able to help as well, getting your bike up and over the bridge shouldn’t be onerous. Just be careful if the steps are wet as they can be slick.

While you might be tempted to leave your bike and bags in one of the bike racks near the bottom of the stairs to avoid carrying your bike up the stairs to go over to Harper’s Ferry, I would not take the risk of theft having known someone who had their bags stolen from there.


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First Long Trip Advice
 -  + Hi All, I am looking for advice on deciding the route of my first long walk/hike. I'm only debating the starting location because I live in Hancock, Md. so my ending point is locked in. I want to...
Discussion started 02/12/25 11:34:17 AM by HumanPowerTool_321 - 3 replies (last reply by HumanPowerTool_321 at 03/10/25 3:01:53 PM)
HumanPowerTool_321 from Hancock, Md on 02/12/25 11:34:17 AM
Hi All,

I am looking for advice on deciding the route of my first long walk/hike. I'm only debating the starting location because I live in Hancock, Md. so my ending point is locked in. I want to do a 2-day, 1-night hike/walk that is between 25-40 miles total with an overnight primitive style camp somewhere along the route (sleeping in a hammock under a tarp). I plan to be dropped off on a Friday morning and then pretty much walk to my house in Hancock and expecting to get home sometime in the evening on Saturday.

Although I consider myself to be in decent shape, I've been "training" for the walk portion for about 6 months by walking 2.5 miles every day on my lunchbreak, and 1 or 2 times a month I walk 10 - 12 miles with about 10 lbs. of gear on me in about 3 - 3.5 hours. Which is about the pace and weight of gear I plan on bringing.

As for the route advice, I am thinking about doing a Paw Paw Wv. - Hancock, Md. trip with camping in Little Orleans, Md. Total distance is 32 miles. Day 1 starts in Paw Paw and will be 15.6 Miles to Little Orleans where I will stop and set up a small camp for overnight. Then, waking up and walking the remainder of the 16.4 miles to Hancock, and then probably another 1.5 miles to my house from the trail.

Does anyone have a different route of about the same distance and ending point?

Does this seem to be to too ambitious or too conservative for a first-time long walk/hike?

Any advice at all? I feel like I'm just getting started, but I'm not a novice at walking long distances or with camping, but with the walking and camping together?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 02/12/25 8:50:25 PM
An obvious alternative route would be south of Hancock beginning in Williamsport. It’s a slightly shorter route (25 + 1.5) than the one you proffered There is an overnight campgound about halfway at the Fort Frederick State Park. Having not stayed there, I don’t know if it can accomodate a hammock.

I’ll add some further comments later.

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 02/13/25 3:02:07 PM
If you wish a somewhat longer trek, you could start a little further south beginning at the McMahon's Mill Recreation Area (approximately 36.5 miles south of Hancock) or even at Dam 4 (40 miles south) and return to Hancock. From there you could ovenight camp at McCoy's Landing State Campground (public pay) or the North Mountain primitive Hiker/Biker campsite.

I'm a biker not a hiker so I can't comment on the feasibility of your first hiking/camping adventure. Its easily done of course in one day on a bike.

I would note that there was a bridge over a creek out on the Towpath north of Hancock last summer. You may well be able to find a way to hike around it successfully. Alternatively, you can circumvent that bridge by hiking northbound on the parallel Western Maryland Rail Trail.

Don't forget some bug repellent for those pesky mosquitos that seem to come out at dusk. Also there's little or no opportunity to obtain water in these areas so plan on taking what you may need or a filter to make some along the way.

 
HumanPowerTool_321 from Hancock, Md on 03/10/25 3:01:53 PM
Thank you for the information and alternate route suggestions Rivnuts. I didn't really consider coming to Hancock from the Georgetown side of the trail. I like to wake up and walk into the sunrise so west to east routes was all I looked at (for this first trip anyway).

I think I've decided to start in either Town Hill and walk to Hancock. Not much of a difference between them, like 5-6 miles I believe. But if I start in TH, I will be about 18 miles to Devils Alley Bike/Hike campsite for the night and it is about halfway to Hancock. If I did PP to Hancock, my halfway/camp option is one of the options in Little Orleans. I have camped there dozens of times and want to see things I haven't see/camped before while on this trip. Plus, if my start point for day 2 is around Devils Alley, it should be a beautiful sunrise if I hike up to the top of the hill to get to Point Lookout Overlook.


Similar issue with the Williamsport to Hancock route you suggested. I love that area and the idea, but I have camped at Fort Frederick a handful of times over the years.

You seem to know a good bit about the trail which I greatly appreciate. Thank you for the advice. There's three things I consider as essential and separate from "gear", they are a knife, a lighter, and a LifeStraw water filter straw. Outside of an emergency, I think I could take those 3 items make it home alright. Might suck for two days, but I'd make it.


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National Park Service Firings and Trail Conditions?
 -  + Who keeps the C&O and GAP trails in rideable condition? Are the massive firings of federal employees going to be a problem by May 1?
Discussion started 03/04/25 8:37:03 PM by LimaBN - 1 reply (last reply by Rivnuts at 03/05/25 4:59:25 AM)
LimaBN from Minneapolis on 03/04/25 8:37:03 PM
Who keeps the C&O and GAP trails in rideable condition?
Are the massive firings of federal employees going to be a problem by May 1?

 
Rivnuts from Homestead, PA on 03/05/25 4:59:25 AM
The GAP is maintained by a group of volunteer trail associations for the most part. The C&O is maintained by the National Park Service. The effect, if any, of federal government efficiency actions on the C&O is not clear at this point.


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