C&O / GAP Forum

I remember being told that Bikes could be loaded onto or off of the Floridian at Connellsville although there is no baggage service at that stop. I am not sure how it works. I am writing to ask if anyone has experience there or at Harper's Ferry. Amtrak let me pay for taking a bike from Harper's Ferry, but what is on the website is totally unclear.
Thanks.
Baltimore Fred

You just take your bike to the departure platform, sans bags, and the Amtrak train personnel will direct you to the baggage car where they will tag and load your bike. Make sure you have your ticket which includes your bike reservation along with your personal reservation to present for loading.

I've read that bridge construction is occurring on the GAP at Layton. That is near Connellsville and there is 2-3 year turnaround expected. Is this true does anyone know?

Just wear a football helmet when going through Point State Park during the NFL draft and barge through. No, just be careful.

The GAP website indicates that the trail will be closed on April 23 due to paving in the Layton Bridge area with a shuttle around the closure provided at that time. There has been and is ongoing construction in that area as well associated with the replacement of the bridge that offers periodic obstruction by construction traffic.

That said, I haven’t ridden through that area myself since last fall.

The following was posted on the Great Allegheny Passage Facebook page:

Trail Alert: Restricted Access to Point State Park During NFL Draft

The Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) is sharing information about temporary closures and access changes at Point State Park related to the 2026 NFL Draft Experience South.

To support event setup and ensure public safety and efficient operations, site preparation at Point State Park will begin on Monday, April 10, 2026. During this period, the sections of the Great Allegheny Passage and the Three Rivers Heritage Trail within the park, and public restroom facilities, are expected to remain open. Other areas of the park may be temporarily closed.

Beginning Tuesday, April 21, 2026, at 2:00 pm, the Great Allegheny Passage Western Terminus, Fountain Plaza, City Side Lawn, Great Lawn, and public restrooms will be closed to public access as final event preparations take place.

From Thursday, April 23, 2026, through Saturday, April 25, 2026, all visitors must enter Point State Park during event hours through designated pedestrian entrances and follow established safety procedures. Information on entrance locations, restrictions, safety procedures, and hours of operation will be available through the NFL OnePass app. The recently-reconfigured connecting ramp carrying the Great Allegheny Passage between the Monongahela Wharf and Point State Park will be closed. No bicycles will be allowed into Point State Park at any entrance during this time.

Info: https://gaptrail.org/trail-alert/restricted-access-to-point-state-park-during-nfl-draft/

Cathy:

As a non-Facebook curmudgeon thanks for passing along that info although I’ll be hard pressed to remember all the dates and associated conditions.

Maybe I’ll just ride toward West Newton from Homestead during the month of April instead. :-)

There's a lot of people who don't use facebook and other social media, and they are probably happier than those of us who do use it. Knowing that I try to make the bikecando folks aware of things posted on the GAP facebook page. I also frequently direct people on the GAP and Katy Trail facebook pages to the bikecando and bikekatytrail websites.

During the NFL Draft I'll be pretending like there's 12 inches of snow and staying home. I think a lot of folks are planning to avoid being out and about. Traffic is bad enough around here without the extra 700,000 people they are predicting. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they'll be coming, enjoying this wonderful part of Pennsylvania, and spending money. I just don't want to be competing with them on the Parkway and other highways etc.

Interestingly, those estimated 700,000 visitors are more than twice the population of the City of Pittsburgh itself at just over 300,000.

Although I have not been able to speak to my neighbor about the Pumphouse parking lot, I can report that the lot was open yesterday

The neighbor says they unlocked the Pumphouse gates for the touring season with the exception for special events there.

Thanks Rivnuts. I did get out a couple of days ago and biked on the paved part of the trail. What is the surface condition of the unpaved parts of the trail? We'll probably get some more cold weather before May when most of the freezing/thawing will be done. But I'm wondering if for now unpaved trails are in good enough condition to bike on.

I've ridden toward Sutersville a few times in March, most recently last Sunday. The surface has been fine although I've avoided that section after hard rains. Given a couple of days thereafter to dry out, you should be fine riding beyond Boston.

I got to do a short ride today starting at Boston and heading east. The surface of the trail is great. There will be some cold weather between now and the end of April, but maybe there will not be enough freezing and thawing to turn the trail into the consistency of wet cement.

I had a refreshing ride today. A fun part of my day was driving home when a turkey flew across Hwy 130 about 3 miles from my home, and then maybe 1/2 mile later another turkey ran across the highway. What's the deal with these big old birds.

The Big Savage Tunnel will reopen for the 2026 touring season on March 25.

I can confirm the Big Savage Tunnel is open as I just went through it yesterday riding from Myersdale to Frostburg.

How are the new stairs coming along at HF?

I haven't seen them working on them recently (although the construction setup is there). There are some temporary stairs for now.

The last few times I drove past the Pump House in Munhall (near Homestead and Pittsburgh) I noticed the parking lot was closed. Is there some kind of renovation going on? I parked in the parking lot between the Hampton Inn and the construction. Just wondering.

I suspect that they just don’t consider the season to have begun in earnest yet. My neighbor manages that facility. I’ll ask them if there is an issue as well as if/when it will open. Many, as have I, have been parking in the Lowe’s lot.

Starting from Pittsburg on 5/14/2026 early morning and looking to finish in DC in 5 days, possibly 6 days if terrain is muddy. Looking for people to ride with for bike packing / camping along the way.

Hello Everyone:
I spoke to this subject beforehand. But my plan is to ride the entire GAP/C&O Trail on 271/14 road bike tires The Miyata 1000 is a classic (50 plus years old!) and it did fine on the GAP segment two years ago. I get the info about some possible ruts as well as mud due to rain when it occurs along the C&O. Just do it right? All things considered there is a concert in Vienna, Virginia that I'll try to make on 9 June. This one is dedicated to my friend Ben who passed from cancer not long ago.

Comments are welcome

For a moment you confounded me with your 2711/4 tires until I realized they are 27 x 1-1/4” tires. :-)

Are you starting in Pittsburgh on June 9?

Excuse the earlier note. Clearly you won’t be leaving Pgh on June 9 since you plan to be in Vienna that day. My bad.

Hello Rivnuts:

I always appreciate your replies. But I'm considering at least nine days before that show in Virginia. Pittsburgh to D.C. probably will take that amount of time. Sorry about the tire size misunderstanding. Not good at math.

It’s too bad the White’d Ferry is not operating. If it were you could cross the river into Virginia and ride up Leesburg. From there you could ride on the paved WOD trail right into Vienna.

Rivnuts:

Indeed, too bad that White's Ferry is closed. I mean it was right near the C&O Trailhead for pete's sake. Is there another option to cross the Potomac R. nearby? Maybe a private boater! I was in the Navy...

Mark

I’m not aware of any private ferry operations operating in that area although I was told of a shuttle operator while at the White’s Ferry Grill last summer. Probably not inexpensive however. If interested I can resurrect that info if you wish. Aside from that there is no bridge near White’s Ferry to ride across. I suppose you might consider crossing the river at Point of Rocks and ride along US 15 into Leesburg but I’ve ridden on a portion of that highway north of Leesburg and it was, let’s say, daunting at best.

Perhaps others can offer better options.

Ok season is just around the corner..... What is the primary water treatment along the C&O.. planning on doing a mid to late March trip.. realize pump handles aren't on until maybe the 15th of April or so. probably going to carry 4 liter's or so. most of my career was outside year round.. Hydration was top priority.. Multiple nights...not entire towpath.. Just starting my journey.. Everyone on here has been extremely helpful..
truly appreciated.. Nope Nowhere near lock 10 and the spill.. Probably
above Brunswick or Harpers Ferry.. was in Williamsport Saturday.. Tow path was nice...If One were to start in Williamsport ,, where would you park and how would you get to the towpath.. wooden bridge with steps not really an option with my load..Heading upstream towards Cumberland..Any creeks or tributaries you would filter or treat..springs??Thanks...
Did ya notice the 9th letter wasn't used in it's singular form..

I suggest you park in the parking area just north and east of Canal Lockhouse 44. You can see it in Google Maps’ satellite view. From that parking lot you can easily cross the Canal to the Towpath with your bike.

I’ve not needed or wanted to collect and filter native water between Williamsport and Cumberland albeit i usually make my trips when the pumps are working and do not consume large amounts of water when riding. (Probably just riding too slowly.) There is potable water available just off the trail in Hancock, Paw Paw, Oldtown and Cumberland that fulfills the need for water, if required. While there are a number of creeks that cross beneath the Towpath, I’ve not been watchful for such water sources and thus have no input to that question.

Thanks Rivnuts...How much water do you carry ..what would you say is a daily average on milage. This elder is planning 25 to 30 Tops with 40 pounds roughly .When utilizing the pumps from the Hiker/biker campsites how are you treating the water..Thanks again

Oh and the parking area you are speaking of ..Is that the one that leads to the boat ramp for the Potomac.
Sorry

Doug:

The parking lot I recommended for the easiest bike access to the Towpath in Williamsport is east of the power plant and dam which are downriver of Cushwa Basin. I will email you a couple of annotated maps that show where the parking lot I recommend is located and the path to the Towpath.

As for water between Williamsport and Cumberland note the following distances and off-trail sources to or at the destinations for potable water:

Williamsport to Hancock 25 Sheetz
Hancock to Little Orleans 16 Bills Bar Closed Monday to Wednesday
Little Orleans to Paw Paw 16 Liberty Gas and Convenience Store
Paw Paw to OldTown 10 Schoolhouse Kitchen-Closed Monday
Oldtown to Cumberland 23 Fairfield Inn Bikewash Station

Accordingly, and with proper planning, you can obtain potable water within your 25-mile daily max ride. Other forum participants can no doubt add other sources along the way.

How much water one carries or needs are personal and weather dependent. I usually only carry two water bottles for drinking and or cooking. I carry a foldable water bag to collect water from the pumps for washup and cleanup. I will occasionally use untreated pump water for cooking after boiling. If necessary, I will use the pump water and filter it for drinking water. I would typically add some flavoring to that filtered pump water since it has a taste that I don't particularly care for. I don't use iodine tablets and the like since I don't care for that flavor either and just rely on my Sawyer water filter for purity.

A sincere tip of the hat to you sir...greatly appreciate the time.. Will keep you posted on planned trips

Raw sewage is being diverted into the Canal .... then pumped out back into the 72" sewage line that broke upstream... Can't imagine the clean up is going to be easy Estimated volume... Not necessarily in the canal but ballpark is 40 million gallons..This was 1/23/25

Where is this along the C&O?

I'm not 100% sure... thought they said something about lock 10...
please don't quote me on this.. But from the video's available, they have lined the canal with heavy gauge plastic.. then down river they cut a path through the canal berm to access the 72" pipe and dump into
that.. kinda cool really.. But what a mess .. several million gallons of untreated sewage were dumped into the poor old Potomac.. She has had so much filth and debris dumped over the centuries.. think the powers to be are handling this as well as can be expected considering the conditions and frozen ground.. believe the 72" pipe was installed in 1960.. always think back to when the C&O was officially closed.
1924...What were the river and canal water conditions back then . Some of the tree's in and around the canal are over a century old.. survived Agnus 72, 1996 Wow... so many other floods..
Stay warm

If it were indeed at Lock 10, that would be just inside the Beltway. I would assume that there are no public water system intakes downriver toward DC and appropriate measures are being taken. If there were any good news surrounding this situation, it would be that it’s winter. Raw sewage in the canal in August would be unpleasant if not even more unhealthy. Hopefully the situation is corrected.expeditiously.

I believe there have been reports on the facebook page:Great Allegheny Passage / C&O Canal Enthusiasts. This was posted by Greg Humes, today, 1-30-2026:

"C&O MM 10 Sewage Overflow update (as of late 1/29). I am going to copy/paste DC Water update as some posts with links aren't getting approved. "Today, officials with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Maryland Department of Environment (MDE), and DC Department of Energy and Environment (DOEE) toured the collapse site. The visit provided a firsthand look into ongoing bypass operations, excavation, and the repair process, underscoring the strong oversight and collaboration among federal, state, and local agencies.

"Crews have excavated a section of the sewer line about 30 feet downstream of the collapse site and removed the crown of the pipe. Active flow is visible indicating the sewer line is partially functioning – despite the damage - with some wastewater getting past the break and continuing downstream in the Potomac Interceptor.

"Work will begin tomorrow to clean debris and obstructions in the pipe, a critical step toward restoring full flow through the system and eliminate dry and wet weather overflows. Additional work will also get underway to stabilize the ground at the collapse site. Trench boxes, acting as giant retaining walls, will be installed around the damaged section for containment and to prevent more erosion. Once debris is cleared and wastewater levels around the collapse drop further, teams will excavate the damaged pipe section to thoroughly assess the damage. This will determine the repairs needed and timeline.

"Eight bypass pumps remain in operation, with crews monitoring the site 24/7 to keep the pumps running through difficult conditions posed by the extreme cold. The system began operation on Saturday, diverting a significant volume of wastewater around the damaged pipe and carrying it back into the Potomac Interceptor further downstream of the collapse."

I hope that helps.

Thanks for that update.

Sincerely appreciate the time and thorough explanation... well done

Here is a link to an article by NPR regarding the sewage leak dated today, 2-7-26 at 7:10 PM:

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/07/nx-s1-5705313/broken-pipe-sewage-spill-potomac-river

I think there has been a more recent story on NPR about the sewage issue. There's also an article in USA. I've seen something on facebook about Governor Wes Moore and Trump blaming each other. And tonight Stephen Colbert discussed the issue during his monologue. It's too late for me to get the energy to post all the links to the articles. You can easily find them. For example if you google "USA Today Potomac sewage spill" it will actually bring up 4 articles and several videos.

Awwww thanks Cathy.. Its such a shame. people pointing fingers and zero action...Like most government actions.. its all about visual public interpretations.. Money Money money.. The real issues are going to show up this spring and summer when the temps start to rise.. Bacteria , algae blooms , fish kills, further down the Bay. Remember the fish kills on the eastern shore ....Multiply that ...Millions of gallons..Untreated..in the Canal....Wildlife, people, aquatic species,,People have miss treated these water ways for centuries..one step forward 5 steps back.. Sorry for the ramble. Off topic a bit, Just truly strikes a nerve...Hope you got a bit of rest..
Thanks again