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Verizon Cell Phone Coverage
Sam from Ohio on 02/15/2012 01:39 PM
Can any one tell me how good verizon cell phone coverage is along the GAP and C&O. I have heard it is not the best, but I would like to ride it while returning from DC with my wife returning with the car. Would like to stay in contact at least enough meet in the evenings. Possible?

lenny on 02/16/2012 05:30 AM
Cell service is spotty at best between major trailheads,on the towpath, but is ok in most of the towns. The GAP is bad most of the way to Connellsville. Although there is a cell booster at Rockwood.

SAM from Ohio on 02/17/2012 09:31 AM
Thanks for the reply

lenny on 02/19/2012 09:20 AM
Looks like Verizon just improved cell service in the cCnfluence area

riding the GAP and C&O towpath
scott from columbia, sc on 02/11/2012 05:24 PM
Planning a trip in early summer anybody have recommendations for a two person shuttle from DC to McKeesport. I have a tandem with a BOB trailer. Thanks Scott

Just did the towpath in 2.5 days... Excellent
Dave from Alexandria, VA on 11/29/2011 10:33 AM
Did the trip alone and unsupported in mid Nov 2011. Bike was a Yeti SB66 strapped with ~ 35 pounds of gear.

I live near DC. Rented a HERTZ one-way ($100) to Cumberland. The car dropoff was 1/4 mile from trailhead.

Started at mile marker 184.5 near the C&0 trailhead. Picked up lunch in Hancock (mm 120) and made it to Lockhouse #49 (where I stayed the night) at Four Locks near mm 108.

Next day, Another 75+ miles passing Shepherdstown and Harper's Ferry WV - crossing the Potomac on Whites Ferry at sundown, eventually ending the day in Leesburg, VA at the Best Western... Nice :)

Last 1/2 day on home turf - Leesburg to Georgetown then home. The weather had been unseasonably warm and beautiful the first two days. But today's cold-rain reminded me what season it was. Had the correct gear so no problem. Arrived in G-Town around 11am and then home right at noon. OH MAN... that was a super fun ride!

A couple things... I planned my trip @ 60 miles a day whish is certainly doable for any semi-serious bike rider. I averaged almost 80 miles a day. In summer, the additional daylight hours could add 20 miles a day - or give you that much more chill-time.

Don't forget to bring a light for the Paw-Paw tunnel - It really is dark. Dangerously exciting. I could have passed Sasquatch without knowing.

Lots of other cool sights, sounds, and animals throughout the day - very few people this time of year.

I heard mixed reviews about accomodations at Hancock MD. I decided not to gamble, purchased supplies and moved on. I was able to reserve the lockhouse using my iphone and a visa. 15 miles later, I arrived and got in with easy (code) access. Lockhouse #49 was a perfect rustic overnighter.

The Best Western in Leesburg was nice, inexpensive ($85), and had a good continental breakfast setup in the morning.

Rember to always graze on nutritionals and drink plenty of water throughout the day. This rule (and so

Lenny on 11/30/2011 06:56 PM
Great post. Summer can also be tough. July 5-9 2010 was 105 degrees and 65m/d was tough.

wayne from Williamsburg, VA on 02/07/2012 10:55 AM
My wife and I bike either the canal or the GAP every July. It can be hot, but the tree canopy is such that we've never felt oppressed by the heat.

GAP Late April
Roy from Niskayuna, NY on 02/06/2012 10:03 PM
Is it too early to start biking in the Meyersdale to Frostburg area in the last week in April (snow, ice, cold, etc.)?

Leny on 02/07/2012 05:47 AM
The entire passage should be in good shape by then.

Hillside Motel in Brunswick
Anonymous on 05/26/2011 04:05 PM
I recently went to the motel to visit a friend and i was greeted by a very rude woman who told me that there was no guests alowed on the property and that wed have to rent a room to visit our firends in their room. terrible customer service i wouldnt recemend staying here.

Anonymous on 06/27/2011 04:36 PM
you must have been a drug dealer or just no good cause i am staying there and she has been nothing but amazing

Anonymous on 06/30/2011 12:00 PM
I also knew guess of this Motel and the room are not the cleans as they should be and the manage plays favor to the tentants and if she does not like you or have a prolbem with you she makes it known to everyone. And to set the record straight I am not a drug dealer I have a real job.

Jim on 07/20/2011 01:24 PM
Maybe she thought you were for "hire" :)

someone who cares just like the manger at Hillside from MD on 01/31/2012 12:51 AM
The manger the lady you are talking about is very nice and respectful to everyone. You had to be doing something your weren't suppost to be doing or disrespectful to her or someone there. Because that lady your talking about is not like that.

Carolyn from va on 01/31/2012 01:30 AM
That lady you are talking about. She's the manager of that Motel. She always watched over everything she took care of everything. I know she ran all the rif raf out of the Motel. She cleaned that Motel up. I felt alot safer bringing my family to this Motel. Thanks to the manger Lisa for getting it cleaned up. So know who has a to say anything about that lady.

Hillside Motel in Brunswick
Mr.Jackson from Md on 01/31/2012 01:10 AM
I'm really sorry to hear that the young lady that has been running the Motel is not there anymore. I went up there last week and she was moving her stuff out. I couldn't believe it. She really turned that Motel around 100% better than it has been for along time. I don't know were I will stay now. I asked her where she was going at that time she didn't know. I gave her my # told her if she gos to another Motel call me. This Motel will be just like it was before she took over. It's really sad. We will miss her and the Motel too. We will not be back unless she comes back.

Hillside Motel in Brunswick
someone that use to go to this Motel all time from MD on 01/31/2012 12:38 AM
I love this Motel! It's really sad that the manger Lisa is not there anymore. The place has already started going down hill. Lisa was always so nice to everyone. She kept the place looking better that it ever did before. The rooms were clean, overall the Motel was alot better mange when Lisa was here. I'm sorry disappointed that's she's gone.

Scott from Ijamsville, MD on 11/02/2011 12:42 PM
I have run on the trail in the areas near the Mouth of the Monocacy aqueduct. It's nice running there but the scenery isn't very interesting. Could anyone recommend other parts of the trail that are a bit more scenic?

scott s from damascus md on 01/27/2012 06:21 PM
I think we are related haha

Town Hill Manor B & B in Little Orleans
Steve from Georgia from Tiger, GA on 07/18/2010 08:06 AM
Stayed here several years ago, and had a great stay after riding south from Cumberland. The owners couldn't have been nicer, and the breakfast the next A.M. was wonderful before heading south again. They shuttle you to and from the trail.

Rick Hancock from Grafton on 11/26/2010 07:19 PM
My wife and I stayed at Town Hill during a 3 day ride along the Passage/C&O. Great place, wonderful host's. It would be wise to arrange supper (which was very good) as there is no where to eat except Bill's. For a nominal fee $5 bucks each they shuttled us both ways. It's a long 6 miles! The Alabama tomato pie was worth the lodging fee!

Rick Hancock from Grafton on 01/14/2012 08:59 PM
What a switch from my last review. I've stayed at the Town Hill Manor 2-3 times and was always treated very well. However, this past Oct. My group of 6 riders were greatly mistreated. The Passage was high and dry except for a major rock slide just east of Meyersdale, but the C&O was wet and pretty muddy after several days/weeks of lousy weather. The 3rd day we rode from Cumberland to Little Orleans and called for a shuttle from Bill's Place (I'd made the reservation about 3 month's in advance.)When we arrived after stopping at a market for sandwiches we were met in the front yard and told we could eat in the pavilion, it was cold and windy, 50's and we were wet, muddy, cold, and tired. We were told that a 40th high school reunion was going on so we couldn't use the dining area. There were about 40 people there and the room holds over 100. While we were eating the owner kept coming out and reminding us that we would need to brush ourselves and our gear before entering, we were told this about 7 times. I'd already stressed the need to my group and everyone understood. After cleanup we were taken up a few at a time to "keep from bothering" the other guests. Once upstairs we were told to use one shower, there are 3 available. I talked again to the owner about at least using a second shower which he finally allowed. While I was showering last he came up stairs and chastised my group about making too much noise we weren't allowed to come downstairs. The next morning we did enjoy the wonderful breakfast that I'd spoken so highly of even though we were placed away from the other patrons. When I mentioned how I wasn't very happy with the way we were treated the owner stated that several bike groups had misused the place and left dirt and mud behind. I understand that Townhill Manor is a nice place a great place in fact but if your going to take peoples money and it wasn't cheap then you need to except that we don't all arrive by vehicle wearing a coat and tie. I've always tr

Hiking the GAP
Paul A on 01/07/2012 10:09 PM
I'll be hiking the GAP, this spring, from Mc Keesport to Cumberland to compliment the hike I did last spring of the C+O. Has anyone here ever done a thru hike of the GAP? If so I'd love to hear any advice you have to offer.

Lock #13 in Bethesda
Anonymous on 12/27/2011 08:07 PM
note scribe in lock stone> made by w h davis from 1923-1932 he was a locktender of lock 13 and 12

Your email address bounced.... Post on your events
Robert Blanda - TeamHangover.net from Berlin, NJ on 12/05/2011 06:15 PM
First, let me say THANK You for all the information you have posted on your site.

Our BikePacking trip is a short one, for rookies, 5 days … if you could post on your EVENTS page, we’d be greatful. We would love more people. Lets make it a party!

Here is the information:

Bike with Team Hangover:

Itinerary GAP Trail- Bikepacking 2012 – June 7th-June 12th 2012

Day ONE: Thursday, June 7th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 4 Hours
Miles today: 32.5
LEAVING: Cumberland, MD (yes we have to drive here…)
ARRIVING: Meyersdale, PA

Day TWO: Friday, June 8th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 3 Hours, 35 mins
Miles today: 30
LEAVING: Meyersdale, PA
ARRIVING: Confluence, PA

Day THREE: Saturday, June 9th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 2 Hours
Miles today: 16
LEAVING: Confluence, PA
ARRIVING: Rockwood, PA

Day FOUR: Sunday, June 10th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 3 Hours, 30 Mins
Miles today: 28
LEAVING: Rockwood, PA
ARRIVING: Frostburg, MD

Day FIVE: Monday, June 11th
Approx. ride time (not including stops): 2 Hours
Miles today: 16.5
LEAVING: Frostburg, MD
ARRIVING: Cumberland, MD

Day SIX: Tuesday, June 12th
LEAVING: Cumberland, MD – Drive Home

Thank you
Robert Blanda - TeamHangover.net from Berlin, NJ on 12/05/2011 06:08 PM
Thank you very much for posting all this information. As a web developer, I can appreciate all the work you put into it, even if it's built in DOT NET ;) ... Thanks again. We're basing our trip on your information.

trip segments
pizazz from Maine on 10/17/2011 11:18 AM
We are planning a spring ride...Mckeesport to Washington, D.C. On my hybrid, I can travel 60 miles a day and could pretty well do that too along the Erie Canal Tow Path parts which were hard stone dust. Given that, is 50 miles a reasonable day on the C & O?

vabiker23518 from Williamsburg, VA on 10/18/2011 09:45 AM
That is very doable. Your best bet is to check out the bike washington website, and they give you the best overnight/mileage options for camping or hotels based on the number of days (3 to 4) that you are considering.

Randy from E-Town on 10/26/2011 01:32 PM
Just a word of caution, be careful about riding the C&O during Early Spring. Typically the trail is very muddy and areas could experience flooding. The Spring of 2011 was especially harsh. I would wait until the Summer months. With the weather pattern that is setting up for this winter, we could see a repeat of what we had last winter going into Springtime, with flooding concerns. Just food for thought. Good luck!

Lenny on 11/07/2011 07:43 PM
I agree with Randy concerning a spring trip. I have done the ride your are planning twice and did 60 to 70 miles /day. very pleasant distances for average riders. Most of the best places to stay are in these distance windows. I will list the ones I used,if you like.

Anonymous on 11/21/2011 11:06 PM
Would be interested in your recommendations of places to stay. Thanks.

lenny on 11/22/2011 07:58 PM
I have stayed at the following places and all are satisfactory. The Yough Motel, Ohiopyle. The Confluence B&B. Holiday Inn Cumberland (ask for a room in the front because of the railroad. Also in Cumberland the Fairfield Inn. Budget Motel in Hancock. Red Roof Inn, Williamsport. And Comfort Inn Harpers Ferry which becomes Econolodge this Spring.

JB from Langeloth, PA on 12/02/2011 07:46 PM
I too am thinking of doing this ride ... I was thinking of early June. I would be fine with doing the ride alone, but it would probably be nice to do with a group as well if I'm going unsupported. I was thinking of starting right from my house, which is close to the Panhandle Trail which connects to the Montour, which of course runs to the GAP in McKeesport. Reply back if at all interested and I will give my email so we can talk more ... or also just to bounce ideas off each other!

Clarence M. Johnson from Whitsett Pa on 03/31/2011 02:50 PM
Forgot to add address of trail organization.
Whitsett-Fayette Yough Trail Chapter
231B Main St.
Perryopolis, Pa 15473

Ray (webmaster) on 03/31/2011 03:16 PM
Clarence, thanks to you and your group for all your work in maintaining the trail.
To save time (and 44 cents), is there an email address to which we can write for membership info?

Anonymous on 11/21/2011 06:17 PM
And a little later (ha-ha) cmj245@atlanticbb.net

Bill's Place in Little Orleans
Eddie Fost from Hancock, Maryland on 10/09/2011 03:58 PM
I presently live in Catonsville, Maryland. My mother was from Pearre four miles from Little Orleans.Prior to Bill owning it, it was Charley Callan's Store. As a kid I was in there many times. I am a friend of Bill Shonadel and have been in his place many times. I had a trailer in Little Orleans campground which I sold in August of 1998. Hope to see Bill again before too long. My son was just up there and took a picture of Bill. I didn't recognize him as it had been 13 years since I have seen him. Beer tastes better at Bill's Place.

vabiker23518 from Williamsburg, VA on 10/12/2011 10:03 AM
Wife and I stopped by during a ride in August and were happy to see him too! Looked good to us!

Betty Walter from Cumberland on 11/15/2011 01:08 PM
On 11-14-11 Me and my BF rode from little Orleans to Paw Paw Tunnel and back to Little Orleans...We were lokking so forward to a beer and supper at Bill's Place but was not open at 5 pm and had a sign on the door that he would not be open till 6pm. Hungry and really wanting a beer after our ride we headed back to Cumberland to eat and have a few beers. We were so disappointed.

Little Orleans B & B
gg from springfield on 10/30/2011 07:08 AM
I do not recommend this place. The owner was not ready for us even though we had made reservations 2 weeks before. The place is very cluttered and the mattresses are awful - very old and thin. The bathroom we two couples shared was clean enough. For breakfast we got rotten bacon although the french toast and homemade bread were okay. Also, do NOT use the owner's shuttle service. He was supposed to pick up our car in Cumberland and drop it off at a B&B in Harper's Ferry (for a price, of course) but lost our car key!

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