C&O / GAP Forum

Riders beware. Once again today the GAP Trail website reiterated the closures without detours that remain on trail approaching Ohiopyle and the Pinkerton Tunnel from Pittsburgh. I have seen and spoken with several through riders recently that were not aware of these closures nor had any plans to avoid them.

Travelers should monitor the GAP website to avoid the inconveniences these closures present and when they will be cleared.

I used wilderness voyageurs on April 14 for a shuttle from Ohiopyle to Markleton and that worked out really well

I used wilderness voyageurs on April 14 for a shuttle from Ohiopyle to Markleton and that worked out really well

Apparently you were able to get thru the reported closure approaching Ohiopyle from Pgh. What did you encounter there and was it an issue getting thru?

Ignore my previous question as I see the closure is beyond Ohiopyle toward Confluence. Glad you found a way around the closures.

Coincidentally, later today, the GAP website reports that the closure in Ohiopyle State Park at GAP milepost 69 has been cleared and is now open to riders.

Is the River House still open? I am not finding much about it on the web.

Thanks

Do you mean Sinclair Hamilton's place in Hancock? I live in Little Orleans and the only lodging available now since Steve Hubner's place closed in 2021 is the Town Hill B&B up on old Route 40. I think River House is closed. Sorry.

Just a friendly update about services available in Hancock and Little Orleans, MD as of April 2023.

The Park-n-Dine and Weaver's Restaurants are CLOSED! Victims of the COVID lockdown.

Buddy Lou's is thriving but closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays. The WMRT literally goes right by their parking lot!

Little Sandy's Truckstop is gone, but there's a new facility now with a Burger King and an IHOP! Easy access from the towpath and WMRT from Lock 52/Hancock Visitors Center.

There's a Hardees Restaurant just across the street from Mr. Hardware with easy access from the WMRT.

The Exxon/AC&T service station/convenance store has a fantastic deli that serves some of the best fried chicken on the trail. Very easy access from the WMRT.

The Pizza Hut and the Subway sandwich shop across from Sheetz are still open. Pizza Hut still has the pizza/pasta buffet Monday through Fridays from 11am to 1pm.

There's a Sheetz across the street from the Subway shop with a full line of snacks and a Deli.

There is a Shop-n-Save grocery store along with a Dollar General,
Pittman's liquor store and a laundromat in the strip mall next to the Pizza Hut.

The Potomac River Grill has easy access off the WMRT directly into their parking lot. Really good food but the service can be very, very slow at times.

The Town Tavern is CLOSED.

The Tri-Angle Tavern and Restaurant is open. Very easy access from the WMRT via the Park-n-Ride lot adjacent to the old Park-n-Dine restaurant.

Also the American Legion restaurant/lounge is open to the public and they serve very good food there. Easy access from the WMRT from the Park-n-Ride parking lot.

C&O Bicycle is still open but Jonathan Barker, their ace cycle mechanic, has joined the Marine Corps so it's anyone's guess about the quality of service you can expect from there now. FYI, Dennis Hudson sold the shop to the Barnhart family back in 2015. The Bunkhouse is still open in the back if you need a cheap place to stay overnight.

There is a Food Lion grocery store and a Family Dollar .9 miles north on Pennsylvania Avenue just past the Antique Mall and Post Office.

Crazy Ray's BBQ is located within the Antique Mall on Pennsylvania Avenue and is worth a stop for lunch.

There are three liquor stores located in within the town of Hancock.

Little Orleans Campground is now Ridge Runner Campground. The store and shower facilities are still available.

Bill's Place in Little Orleans is still open for business but is closed on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesdays. They do not serve breakfast! FYI Jack Schoenadel wants to retire and has the place FOR SALE!

Town Hill B&B is the only lodging now available at MP144 since Steve Hubner's Little Orleans Lodge closed it's doors back in 2021. Town Hill will shuttle from Bill's Place if you call (301) 478-2794.

National airport raised their long term parking rates from $9 a day to $19 a day so its no longer a viable option. If you prepay and pre reserve a spot the price will go down a little. when you search airport parking finder, there are hotels that will let you park for around $10 a day.

I just ran across an alert at the NPS’s C&O Towpath website that the repairs are complete and the towpath reopened at McMahons Mill between MP’s 88 and 89. Hence it is no longer necessary to take the long-standing detour there. This alert was apparently issued a couple of weeks ago.

Now if they could only finish the work at the Paw Paw Tunnel exit and reopen the Towpath there!

I'm considering parking my vehicle at the Georgetown end of the trail, taking the train back to Pittsburgh, then riding to DC. I like to have the shuttle at the beginning of the trip.
Do you have any recommendations on parking near Georgetown?

This question has been asked a few times on this forum and I’ve not seen a response as to where you would find free parking in DC. In the past some have suggested parking at Reagan National Airport might be your best option. You can easily ride your bike from Georgetown to Reagan Airport. The economy lot there charges $19 per day and a reservation is recommended.

Hopefully, a reader living in DC can give you a better/cheaper response.

This question has been asked a few times on this forum and I’ve not seen a response as to where you would find free parking in DC. In the past some have suggested parking at Reagan National Airport might be your best option. You can easily ride your bike from Georgetown to Reagan Airport. The economy lot there charges $19 per day and a reservation is recommended.

Hopefully, a reader living in DC can give you a better/cheaper response.

As a DC area resident I concur with Rivnuts.

"Economy" parking at Reagan National is most likely your least expensive yet secure parking.

Free longterm parking in Georgetown DC? To quote Tony Soprano "fuggetaboutit".

When I did the C&O in 2019 I parked at the parking garage at 1690 N Kent St in Arlington, its just on the other side of the Key Bridge. Since I went to the actual milepost 0, it required backtracking through Georgetown a little but its much closer than Reagan Airport. price is $16 per day.

check out the app "Spot Hero" it will let you pre book parking, usually at a discount rate, and makes all the parking garages searchable.

In Arlington there are lots of areas where you can park on the street. However, you need to know where these areas are.
This map should help to see where the parking zone is located.
Link to maps spring 2023:
https://arlgis.arlingtonva.us/web_files/Maps/Standard_Maps/Parking_Zones.pdf
Use google street view maps is also helpful.
Around Wilson blvd. and Clarendon Blvd. there is only paid street parking, so no luck here.
So go a little further out in the neighborhood and park in the local street. About 10-15 minutes bicycle ride to Key bridge. Respect the normal parking law. Don't block people driveway, find another space if it’s too close. Best way to piss off people and get them to reporting your vehicle for been abandon. Make sure your car doesn’t look abandoned in the first place. We are used to seeing many non VA plates, so no worry.
If you park in North Arlington, you can use Curtis trail to get to DC.
Hope this is helpful.

Is the Visitor's Center open the same hours as the park? Open at 8 am daily?

As you have probably found by now, the park’s website indicates that the visitor center is open from 9:00 to 5:00 daily. I must comment however that of those few times that I left the trail to ride up into the park, I have yet to find the visitor center open. Admittedly, that is a rather small sample size, but that has been my experience over the last few years.

You can always call ahead of time to make sure if it is far out of your way. The fort itself has always been open and is worth a few minutes to see.

BE ADVISED: As of 3/25/23, the link for Williamsport Red Roof Inn that you will find on the Williamsport page of BikeC&O.com takes you to the Red Roof Inn in Williamsport, PENNSYLVANIA !, not the location in MD.
Check to be sure the link has been corrected before you reserve. Don't make a reservation there and expect to have a room when you finish your day on the canal.

The following GAP closure update was announced in the GAP website yesterday with an estimated trail reopening date of April 28.

"Contractors deployed by Ohiopyle State Park closed the Great Allegheny Passage between mile markers 68 and 69, which lies between Ohiopyle and Confluence, on February 13.

This closure is required in order for cranes to remove and replace an aging culvert that carries water under the GAP to the Youghiogheny River. The project area is extremely dangerous and entirely impassable. Additionally, there is a steady stream of construction vehicles and heavy equipment running near this section of the GAP.

Please note that this section of the GAP is completely closed to all travelers. There is no detour available because of the narrow and steep conditions in this remote location. Work is expected to be completed, and the GAP reopened in this area, by April 28; weather-permitting, it will reopen sooner. Look for updates on this page, and during this project, please enjoy other sections of the GAP.

This is the last of five similar projects inside the park since 2022, and the only one that requires crews to close the GAP to all travelers. These improvements will help Ohiopyle State Park avoid catastrophic failure of these culverts and much lengthier, unplanned closures.

Thru-travelers may wish to consult an outfitter regarding shuttle-for-hire services to transport you between Ohiopyle and Confluence. Examples include the following: Bill’s Car Service, WheelzUp Adventures, Maple Leaf Outfitters, Wilderness Voyageurs, or Yoder’s Guest House."

This complete closure without detour was reiterated today in the GAP website. I speculate that this alert was reissued because some approaching tourists were unaware of it and/or upset given the lack of a detour.

I've recently encountered a number of riders leaving Pittsburgh in route to Cumberland or DC that are unaware of the various closures along the GAP at this time including the Big Savage Tunnel which will not open until 3/28.

My last reply mistakenly stated that the Big Savage Tunnel would be reopened on 3/28 rather than the correct date of 3/31.

The GAP website reported the following short detour today:

"Contractors will be installing a rainwater catch basin and drain line under the Great Allegheny Passage at the Smithton parking lot and trail access area between March 3 and 10. This work will require bicyclists to dismount and walk a few hundred feet though the adjacent parking lot. Construction vehicles and heavy equipment will be present on and across the GAP in this location. Please slow down when you approach, remain alert, take caution walking through the parking lot, and show courtesy to those performing this critical work."

The GAP website reported yesterday that this work has now been completed and the trail is now fully open at this location.

You're a treasure, Riv.

The question comes up again: Is the 1828 Trail Inn open ? The URL does not work and therefore the info@1828... address does not work.
If the location is open, please let us know how to reach you.

Should you not get a specific forum member response, you might consider contacting the Hancock, MD Chamber of Commerce whose contact info is on the internet.

CORRECTION: 1828 Trail Inn IS in business. They open this year on April 18. The posted phone number DOES get you to them (301-678-7227). I cannot open the website listed on bikecando.com, but the email address is supposed to work: info@1828-trail-inn.com

I'm planning on hiking the trail from Cumberland to Georgetown starting about mid March, and wondering... with the recent warm weather Cumberland and the surrounding areas have had, will the pump handles go on sooner, or will I still need to carry water for the time being.

Typically the National Park Service returns the pump handles at the H/B sites in mid-April. The NPS C&O website lists the status of these remote water faucets on their website. You can check their status there. They are all currently shown as "off" as expected.

I would certainly plan on carrying water and augmenting/refilling it at commercial outlets along the way. You may get lucky if the pump handles are returned early but I certainly wouldn't plan on it unless you see such on the NPS website.

You could also filter the river water if that's something you are comfortable doing with the right filter equipment.

Local new media reported today that Harpers Ferry Road across the Potomac River from Harpers Ferry will be closed for repairs soon. This is at mile marker 61.5 on the C&O Canal Towpath between Locks 33 and 34. While the towpath itself will not be affected/closed, those trying to get through there by car will be affected. A single lane is expected to be repaired by early summer for use by emergency vehicles. Completion of construction for use by the public would follow thereafter.

The GAP website announced today that the Big Savage Tunnel will reopen on the afternoon of March 31.

I just tried calling the number and got voice mail but they didn't identify the location as the River House. Someone's private residence? Anyway, I left my number. May or may not hear back.

I don’t know what your itinerary is but, if you are bike riding on the C&O Towpath, getting to Great Cacapon WV where the River House is/was located would be a long bike ride to the other side of the Potomac River. Under the Towns & Sevices tab in this website the address of the River House is:

10 Rock Ford Rd
Great Cacapon WV

If you are looking for an indoor place to stay in Little Orleans you may want to consider the Town Hill Bed & Breakfast. It’s located a ways up the steep hill from the Towpath but they offer a shuttle for you and your bikes.

Is there a best time of year to cycle the C&O and GAP trails? We were planning on the middle of June. Thanks

June is a great time to go. Weather is unpredictable (as is any other summer month) but June is warm. Should see a few fellow thru cyclists doing Pitt to DC. July and August are also good but could be even warmer. September (early) is still warm but has shorter days and noticeably less people on the trail.

John

Thanks John

John W's response is valid although I personally prefer late May or early September. Not as hot as mid-summer and fewer bugs. :-)

Wife and I are thinking of a 2-day round trip from either Dickerson or Point of Rocks to MP 0. Does anyone know if there is safe overnight parking at either place?

Thanks.

Since Point of Rocks is an operating station for MARTA trains, there is a large parking area there that appears to be well lit and safe. . You don’t see the trail from here but it’s just across the RR tracks.

While there is a power plant at Dickerson, there’s no apparent parking along the trail. Of note, there is the old, abandoned whitewater course at Dickerson that was used to train prospective US Olympians several years back.

Perfect. Thanks. Point of Rocks it is.

You can see that parking lot at Point of Rocks Station if you use the satellite view in Google Maps.

You can see that parking lot at Point of Rocks Station if you use the satellite view in Google Maps.

Is there a best time of year to cycle the C&O and GAP trails? We were planning on the middle of June. Thanks

From the GAP website:

February 10, 2023

"Contractors deployed by Ohiopyle State Park will close the Great Allegheny Passage between mile markers 68 and 69, which lies between Ohiopyle and Confluence, starting February 13.

This closure is required in order for cranes to remove and replace an aging culvert that carries water under the GAP to the Youghiogheny River. The project area is extremely dangerous and entirely impassable. Additionally, there is a steady stream of construction vehicles and heavy equipment running near this section of the GAP.

Please note that this section of the GAP will be completely closed to all travelers. There is no detour available because of the narrow and steep conditions in this remote location. Work is expected to be completed, and the GAP reopened in this area, by April 28; weather-permitting, it will reopen sooner. Look for updates on this page, and during this project, please enjoy other sections of the GAP.

This is the last of five similar projects inside the park since 2022, and the only one that requires crews to close the GAP to all travelers. These improvements will help Ohiopyle State Park avoid catastrophic failure of these culverts and much lengthier, unplanned closures.

Thru-travelers may wish to consult an outfitter regarding shuttle-for-hire services to transport you between Ohiopyle and Confluence. Examples include the following: Bill’s Car Service, WheelzUp Adventures, Maple Leaf Outfitters, Wilderness Voyageurs, or Yoder’s Guest House."

The GAP’s McKeesport Loop alternate route to Boston remains torn up from construction along and in the loop trail itself. Rocks, loose gravel and sand is present over most of its distance. You can ride it but it is rough especially for a road bike. The formal GAP route is probably the best choice until the Loop segment is resurfaced.

I am thinking of riding the c&o towpath in late may. I pull a bob trailer with camping equippment. How much trouble am i going to have at the paw paw tunnel. i keep reading about a bypass and trouble getting up and around. I will be going from cumberland to dc and maybe roundtrip, if I am unable to get my trailer on the train back.
also is that any good place in cumberland to leave a vehicle for a couple of weeks?

Currently the C&O website is projecting completion of the construction work on the downriver side of the Paw Paw Tunnel to be complete at the end of the 2022/2023 winter season. If that schedule holds true you should not have to traverse the tunnel bypass trail.

There is free, long-term parking on Howard Street beneath the I68 Highway overpass near Canal Place in Cumberland.

Does anyone have an update on the Paw Paw Tunnel construction project? Is it complete or will it be completed by April, 2023?

Does anyone have an update on the Paw Paw Tunnel construction project? Is it complete or will it be completed by April, 2023?

As of yesterday there has been no change in the closure alert on the NPS C&O website. It continues to show the closure there still in place. That website has a lag in its updates however so perhaps someone may have more current, first hand information.

From the Pittsburgh Post Gazette:

A several-mile section of the Great Allegheny Passage will close Monday between Ohiopyle and Confluence for the replacement of a culvert that carries runoff water beneath the hiking and biking trail to the Youghiogheny River.

Ohiopyle is at milepost 72 on the trail; Confluence is just upstream from milepost 62. The conservancy said it hopes to have the culvert replaced and the trail reopened by April 28, at the latest. The project is being done by contractors for the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.

Although the work will be done between mileposts 68 and 69, the trail will be closed at the Ramcat Trail Head, outside of Confluence. There is no detour available “because of the narrow and steep conditions in this remote location,” according to the Great Allegheny Passage Conservancy, the organization that maintains the 150-mile trail between Pittsburgh and Cumberland, Md.